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GreenGecko · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:10 pm Post subject:

No-one said the game wasn't enoyable - we're talking about the blatent faults in the game and how they were it seems completely oblivious to the magazines.
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dodgy_dave · Experienced Member Joined: 15 Jul 2002 Posts: 1779

GreenGecko · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:47 pm Post subject:

Well they seem to think that the glitches aren't worthy of attention and that the game is still worth 90%, and many find this suspicious.
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Big_Damn_Hero · Starting Member Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 2

Well now.

Gotta say. I am sorry for scaring Nick Ellis off. I was kind of anticipating a response from Future. (Also sorry I called XBM dicks when I meant to say XBW).

Well done to everyone for keeping this thread alive. I think it's about time people made it clear that consumers will not accept being spoonfed horseshit anymore.

If a company makes cars which fall apart the second after you buy them, that company goes out of business pretty damn quick.

We have to ensure that there is one thing and ONE THING ONLY that should make a games publisher successful - MAKING GOOD QUALITY GAMES.

It's good for the retailers, it's good publicity for the industry, it's good for the mags, it's good for the gamers, it's good for the business, and most essentially, it's good for the publisher. I hope Atari survives this, although it is now altogether possible it won't. However, if it does, some changes in ethos (and hopefully, in staffing) need to be made across that company and others. I hope Reflections don't get the kick for this as Core did by Eidos. It isn't their fault - they were badly managed. Atari decreed the game was ready for release, not Reflections. Don't let them scapegoat them.

PR and Marketing should be there to bolster and support quality titles, not make up for the lack of them.

Future has a shot now at saving it's sorry-ass reputation. Destroy worthless games in your publications. Rip the sh*t out of them. Praise those (and only those) that deserve it to high heaven. Be the champions of consumer confidence that you pretend to be. Save the industry from the avalanche of high profile sh*t which could lead to us all being out of work a couple of years down the line. Make sure that the next time an ICO comes along that it sells. Do what you can to ensure Driv3r doesn't sell another copy unless Atari takes it back, finishes the damn thing and releases it properly.

Oh and thanks for the compliments I've read around numerous forums this week but I ain't Stuart Campbell Smile

Mr Ingham, over to you. People that buy your magazines (many of whom are on this forum), people that trust your company to do right by them, pay for your house, your car, your dental bills. Sorry mate but you do kind of owe us some kind of explanation.

Well, we are listening.

the_shadow · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject:

dodgy_dave · Experienced Member Joined: 15 Jul 2002 Posts: 1779

But what would happen if a magazine promised to give a game a certain review score in order to get code but then publish a score no-where near what they had arranged.

Surely the game publishers have no leg to stand on in this situation??
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the_shadow · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject:

Applez · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject:

its about time! steve you deserve a medal for this topic! Hopefully this will be a turning point for all games from now on! heres hoping we get a mention on gamecentral tommorow

check this!
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=ret&aid=3680
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Mortal Wombat · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject:

Just checked - yes they did. EDGE gave Sonic Heroes 5/10
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the_shadow · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject:

oh well either way they didn't give it an 8 proving we can trust EDGE, remembers Manhunt score.
*ponders*
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