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Steve

Yes it’s another Driv3r topic but shut up and listen to what I have to say as this needs addressing.

People have read the reviews and they’re not convinced what PSM2 & XBW have written is:

A. Accurate
B. Trustworthy

I have watched in astonishment at the decline in many of the magazines on the shelves today and I’ve had enough of reading crap written by people who to be perfectly honest aren’t very good at their jobs. Is this because they are not allowed to give their own personal opinion on articles/reviews they write? Are they told by their superiors that certain games need to be scored within a certain margin? Before any Admins or magazine staff say “no, that’s not true” don’t even bother because I know what goes on with certain publications, it might not necessarily be yours that have ever stooped this low although I’m almost convinced a large brown envelope stuffed with fifty pound notes may have influenced the score lines handed to Driv3r in PSM2 & XBW.

Anyway, back to the point of this topic. People have started to get copies of Driv3r delivered through the post and people are finding all sorts of bugs that should have been mentioned in the reviews if they were honest.

I must stress that I haven’t played Driv3r so I cannot personally claim to have witnessed the bugs being mentioned but this one is a classic:

OctogenarianPussy · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:19 pm Post subject:

I refuse to get into this bloody argument again.

You know how I feel about it. These issues have been well documented in the past and leave a very nasty taste in the mouth. And this is hard to discuss here because the website itself is a magazine publishers product. If cash or incentives (or threats) are used to secure a shocking game a decent score then everyone involved should be punished.
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KKLEIN · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:25 pm Post subject:

In issue 50 of PSM2, a paragraph, that graces every single Future Publishing publication reads:

Eighthours · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:29 pm Post subject:

Well, we've already been told by Mike that we were "talking bollocks" when talking about inducements, but I understand that with PSM2 published by Future, he has a good reason to take the party line on the issue.

Unfortunately the mags have ballsed up with this one, and in a really bad way. Usually these "exclusive reviews" are slightly dodgy, but nothing too spectacularly wrong. With Driv3r though, it's absolutely obvious beyond a shadow of a doubt that it isn't worth 9/10. It's not a matter of opinion at all, it just isn't worth 9/10, for many of the reasons that Steve put in his post and a hundred more.

Trouble is, most people on this forum know that certain reviews are dodgy as hell. People from mags post on forums like rllmuk and say about how their mag was asked to do such-and-such. Unfortunately nobody's gone full-out and totally whistleblown on the practise, citing specific examples for a specific mag, authorised by a specific person. And I really wish they would, because until that happens the mags can still fob us off with lame excuses.
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NickSCFC · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject:

A reminder of the scores please.
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Eighthours · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject:

KKLEIN · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:37 pm Post subject:

There is an interview on the Net with a former EDGE editor that actually reveals everything. It was posted on Playstation.co.uk's forums but quickly (& I mean real quickly, removed by Admin). I can't find the damn thing now.

I think it was on a French site? Confused

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OctogenarianPussy · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:38 pm Post subject:

In this case we'll have to wait until all the reviews are in before casting doubts over the validity of the OPS2 and XBW score. If everyone gives it a high score then I'll find it unlikely that Atari have deep enough pockets or influence to buy off everyone.
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Eighthours · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:39 pm Post subject:

KKLEIN · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

Eurogamer
Atari
Playstation.co.uk
Rllmuk
GameFaqs
Us

All these forums hate it. They can't all be wrong.
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Eighthours · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject:

OctogenarianPussy · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject:

SillySprout · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:

If half the stuff that I've read on here is true, it's absolutely appalling that Driv3r got these sorts of review scores. It's absolutely disgraceful that magazines should be critical of one game, then take a pay off to recommend another. A month down the line, the makers of these magazines are going to look as stupid as fluff, and deservedly so.

I honestly hope they got rapped for it.
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