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Driv3r Reviews. Were PSM2 & XBW honest? (Part II)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone contacted the Sun yet?I know its not exactly a good paper but you know getting this sort publicity outside our "circle" can only be a good thing right.


Do it. Do it. Do it. I mean you, by the way.

People need to know.

I don't like the Sun, but mon beau-pere loves it. Me and my mummio read The Mirror.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marvelharvey wrote:
1) Sending out unfinished review code is normal, we all tell the magazines the bugs we know of, what we're fixing and what's staying in. The magazines usual take what we say with a pinch of salt as they know that we can't do much in the final two or three weeks of development (even though I've witnessed 'turd like' games suddenly all come together in the final few days and become brilliant due to a few code, design or art changes)


Coming from within the industry, that comment is quite important imo. I know that personally, I want my magazines to have reviews before games are released. If you're the type of person to buy magazines, you're most likely the type of person who wants their reviews before the top games come out, and not two months after. Therefore, I understand that magazines might take this route in order to provide gamers with what they want, and perhaps switches some of the focus onto Atari, but it still doesn't go the full way to explaining the reason for the magazines to ignore problems so apparent in a game that sources within the same company earlier called it a "bug ridden glitch fest".

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2) I've seen lots of underhand tactics when it comes to games reviews. One of the games I worked on got a bad score on a leading game website, 2 hours and one phone call from our publisher later, the score goes up 2 whole points! I've seen magazines told that unless they review one of our games very favourably, they will never recieve review code from us again... we got a good review.


That does.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Matthew wrote:
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space doubt 3 wrote:
Edge score 3/10.


Typical.

You like it.
Most other people here, and those reviewing it, don't.
Really, stop worrying about it.

Oh! And also, CVG = 64%


No what I mean is that it's typical of Edge to give it 3/10.

Huge Atari game + Huge Interest + Slight Disappointment = 3/10

Slight disapointment Rolling Eyes
The thing is practically broken and in no way shape or form should it have been shipped to customers as it is.And implying edge marked it down because of the fact it was hyped is bloody wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bear wrote:
dodgy_dave wrote:
Matthew wrote:
dodgy_dave wrote:
space doubt 3 wrote:
Edge score 3/10.


Typical.

You like it.
Most other people here, and those reviewing it, don't.
Really, stop worrying about it.

Oh! And also, CVG = 64%


No what I mean is that it's typical of Edge to give it 3/10.

Huge Atari game + Huge Interest + Slight Disappointment = 3/10

Slight disapointment Rolling Eyes
The thing is practically broken and in no way shape or form should it have been shipped to customers as it is.And implying edge marked it down because of the fact it was hyped is bloody wrong.


I certainly wouldn't call it broken. The game works, and it works how it's supposed to.

Technically it's flawed, therefore the disappointment comes in at a technical level. Gameplay wise it is not, therefore there really shouldn't be that much disappointment at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgy dave, did you send an email into official xbox magazine??? I saw a message in the magazine from the same username.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edges rating system wrote:
3. Severely flawed

Bear in mind that Edge takes 5 to be average. Looking at what they say a 3 is, I'd say they've gotten it spot on according to what people have been saying about the game
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Technically it's flawed, therefore the disappointment comes in at a technical level. Gameplay wise it is not, therefore there really shouldn't be that much disappointment at all.

The cars handle great. They smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases, quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very clever but what the hell).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dodgy dave, did you send an email into official xbox magazine??? I saw a message in the magazine from the same username.


Lol no I didn't. I wouldn't touch OXM with a 10 foot barge-pole.

What did it say?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But its technically flawed to such an extent that the gameplay is also flawed.
And also when you works how its supposed are you saying Reflections meant for people to have to replay mission after mission because the games flaws prevent them from completing it first or second time around?
By the way I have contacted a national DJs show over this hope to hear a reply soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KKLEIN wrote:
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Technically it's flawed, therefore the disappointment comes in at a technical level. Gameplay wise it is not, therefore there really shouldn't be that much disappointment at all.

The cars handle great. They smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases, quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very clever but what the hell).


And Driver 1 was excellent....
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And also when you works how its supposed are you saying Reflections meant for people to have to replay mission after mission because the games flaws prevent them from completing it first or second time around?


What mission have you had to replay simply because of technical problems??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgy_dave wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:
dodgy_dave wrote:
Technically it's flawed, therefore the disappointment comes in at a technical level. Gameplay wise it is not, therefore there really shouldn't be that much disappointment at all.

The cars handle great. They smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases, quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very clever but what the hell).


And Driver 1 was excellent....


.....in 1999.
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dodgy_dave wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:
dodgy_dave wrote:
Technically it's flawed, therefore the disappointment comes in at a technical level. Gameplay wise it is not, therefore there really shouldn't be that much disappointment at all.

The cars handle great. They smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases, quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very clever but what the hell).


And Driver 1 was excellent....


Driver 1 was excellent, 6 YEARS AGO!

And it's available for a couple of quid. AND better than Driv3r.
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dodgy_dave wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:
dodgy_dave wrote:
Technically it's flawed, therefore the disappointment comes in at a technical level. Gameplay wise it is not, therefore there really shouldn't be that much disappointment at all.

The cars handle great. They smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases, quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very clever but what the hell).


And Driver 1 was excellent....

So I suppose that if someone re-released a good PS1 game on the PS2 at full price you would proclaim it to be great and immediately rush out and buy it? Think about what you're saying
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can i just add that i loved Driv3r. Yes it has pop-up and frame rate problems, but the game is generally fun. I enjoyed the game far more than VICE CITY. The car chases are so amazing. I agree completely with dodgy_dave
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