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OctogenarianPussy · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:28 am Post subject:

Only action makes a difference.

If enough people who bought those two magazines don't buy them again on the strength of their own experience with Driv3r then they could possibly be in trouble. However I'd place a caveat in front of that by saying human beings have an enormous capacity for laziness. Combine that with a short term memory or a feeling of apathy and what do you get?

The same old same old.
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essjayeff · Starting Member Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7

Just another lurker dropping in to say keep up the good work to those driving this thread.

If you keep the pressure up then sooner or later Future will be forced to make an official statement on this issue. It would be deeply unfair on their readers if they are allowed to hide in their shells and let this controversy blow over.

Of course it is best for Future too if they were to unequivocally set the record straight on the Driv3rgate scandal. Until they come clean with full details about what dealings took place between themselves and Atari/Atari's PR with regards to securing those two exclusive reviews then they will continue to lose the trust of their customers. If all the dealings were fair and above board then Future have an obligation to prove that. Until then the suspicion of cash-for-review-scores hangs heavy over this whole iniquitous business.

I would implore anyone with contacts in the mainstream media to try and get this story out to a wider audience. Anything that helps to force Future's hand would be of great help.

Again keep up the good work all. This is a pretty inspirational example of people power taking on big companies Smile

KKLEIN · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:51 am Post subject:

But is it really Future or the Editors of those particular magazines?

Tim Weaver is the Ed of Xbox World; Dan G is the Ed of PSM2. And as some of you may know, Xbox World sales aren't exactly very good at the moment anyway. It's all about sales, & I'm sure if given half the chance to boost them they'd jump at the chance.

And I was reading on Playstation.com's forum yesterday & Rich, the editor of OPS2 had this to say - seemed to be getting a bit, well, pissed off as well actually (if you even can on a 'forum'?):

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OctogenarianPussy · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:57 am Post subject:

It's more like organised crime.
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PS I'd just like to say that after a browse through the many, many Google links about this "non-story", I'm most disappointed with myself not to have been the first person to come up with "Driv3/10er".

the_shadow · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject:

Eighthours · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:06 pm Post subject:

This is just a bit of speculation, not an allegation or anything......

Some questions have been raised about why one of the most inexperienced member of the PSM2 team, who'd only been on the staff for a short time, wrote their World Exclsuive Driv3r review. Could it be that the more senior journalists on the mag didn't want to sully their hard-earned reputations by reviewing the game, and so the junior member of staff was assigned to it instead? (That is, of course, if any of the allegations in this thread are correct)

The only reason I'm asking this, is that it is common practise for the more experienced staffers to review big games, and Driv3r was the biggest of the year so far. To give such an assignment to a "rookie" just seems to me to be a little bit odd.

By the way, can anyone give me a link to that topic on the Playstation forums?
What does everyone else think?
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KKLEIN · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject:

Bloody hell, it's everywhere! I just typed in something (quite obvious) into Google & I got 7 pages of continuous stuff about this. I think it's hit every gaming site except Gamespot.

Unreal. Laughing

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OctogenarianPussy · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject:

At best it's naive.
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Eighthours · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject:

There's just one flaw in the whole argument. Despite all the "coincidences", evidence, statements from various people involved in the industry, and the hundreds of posts in this thread and across the web, one thing remains: the smoking gun. We don't have it.
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the_shadow · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject:

I think someone does
*looks knowingly at Mr. Campbell*

It's just a matter of time.
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KKLEIN · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject: